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arun kumar – Beet.TV https://dev.beet.tv The root to the media revolution Wed, 24 Jan 2018 15:18:48 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.8.7 Cannes Mastercard Session: Execs Address GDPR And ‘Privacy By Design’ https://dev.beet.tv/2017/07/17cannesmcgdpr.html Tue, 25 Jul 2017 10:41:31 +0000 https://www.beet.tv/?p=47073 CANNES — From May 2018, strict new regulations governing how companies can handle European citizens’ data will pose a challenge to everyone who handles customer or audience data.

Amongst other stipulations, the European Commission’s General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) measures include:

  • tighter consent conditions for the collection of citizens’ data.
  • consumers can instruct companies to stop processing their data.
  • automated decision-making and profiling decisions must be made clear.
  • consumers can request decisioning by automated processes be stopped and handled by a human instead.
  • they have the right to request an explanation of automated decision-making.
  • they can request free access, rectification and deletion of data.

The measures apply to any global company processing EU citizens’ data, with penalties of up to 4% of global turnover. Steps data handling and data processing companies should take include conducting risk assessments, appointing data protection officers and overhauling policies and systems.

So, with less than a year ticking on the compliance clock, how are advertisers and their agencies responding to the new regimen?

At a panel debate convened with Beet.TV, four agency data executives said GDPR compliance was a big deal, but they framed privacy regulation in the context of consumer aversion to “creepy” ad tactics generally…

IPG Mediabrands chief data and marketing technology officer Arun Kumar:

“There are a couple of things (clients) probably miss on… an understanding that there is a true impact of what many of these regulations are, and how the EU and the US are not necessarily going to be in sync.

“(Clients) are not at the point where they’re willing to have a conversation around, ‘If someone’s giving me data, what am I giving in exchange?’ It’s going to get harder to justify bombarding consumers with impressions that they don’t need, just because you know who they are. Less is more. That is a far more fundamental shift that has the come – privacy is one part of it.”

GroupM North America CEO Brian Lesser

“We have more conversations about how advertising can be relevant engaging without being creepy… there very rarely is (a breach of privacy). Part of our job as agencies is to ensure clients don’t find themselves getting sued for breaching privacy laws.

“Privacy is not an issue for our clients so much as following the law; that’s never been an issue – it’s more about … using data for good to make the consumer experience better.”

Dentsu Aegis Network product and innovation president Doug Ray

“If we use some insight about an audience to personalise a communication … the trust is there because you’re using the data in a way that there’s a value exchange.

“As we start to use data across more parts of the agency and client, there’s an education that has to happen, so that people that haven’t necessarily been handling data previously and are now having data conversations know the implications and are trained on how to handle that data or send an email without being in breach.”

Hearts & Science CEO Scott Hagedorn:

“I think clients should own all their own ad-tech contracts, agencies should operate them, and they should be fully transparent.”

This video is from The Mastercard Automated Advertising Panel at Cannes Lions 2017. For more from the series, please visit this page.

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What Agency Tech Chiefs Have Learned From Climbing The Ranks https://dev.beet.tv/2017/07/17cannesmcpanelchiefs.html Thu, 20 Jul 2017 01:26:14 +0000 https://www.beet.tv/?p=46973 CANNES — In the last couple of years, data-driven and programmatic advertising techniques have grown in importance to ad agencies, so many of the agencies have put the processes at the heart of their organizations.

For many, that has meant a promotion for the executives who once ran outlier data divisions within an agency but who now are calling the shots.

What changes when that happens, and what have those people learned along the way? In this recorded panel discussion at Cannes Lions, four agency executives opened up. Here is what they said…

Brian Lesser, CEO, GroupM North America (previous: CEO, GroupM’s Xaxis):

“It’s a sign of the times that people with data, analytics, platforms backgrounds are now being put in a position to manage media agencies.

“For me, it’s a matter of making sure our agencies have appropriate platforms… make sure we are data-informed at every step along the way … activation across all channels.”

Arun Kumar, chief data and marketing technology officer, IPG Mediabrands (previous: president, IPG’s Cadreon):

“In this role, I’ve started to see the reality of the imbalance between planning and buying. Planning tools are activated by data sets which are still not quite where they should be.

“There are silos being created which are legacies from the past, you need to clean them to make some of the tech and systems work. That’s all I’ve been focused on for the last there of four months since starting the role.”

Doug Ray, product and innovation president, Dentsu Aegis Network (previous: CEO, Carat):

“I’ve always been on the planning, strategy and management side, not so much on the buying side. What has made great plans and strategies … is human insight, to have a deep understanding of customers. Clients are looking for the human truth, the insight to help them with better outcomes on their media.”

Scott Hagedorn, CEO, Hearts & Science (previous: CEO, Omnicom’s Annelect):

“We under-leveraged the audience creation and syndication side of it. The buying side of programmatic is actually the least important side of programmatic. The three most important sides… are the audience creation, syndication and also using some of the new ad-serving capabilities like an Innovid … to do the orchestration of the creative assets in the product.”

This video is from The Mastercard Automated Advertising Panel at Cannes Lions 2017. For more from the series, please visit this page.
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IPG, GroupM & Dentsu Agency Leads Explore Data Taxonomy And The Mobile Revolution https://dev.beet.tv/2017/07/17cannesmcpaneldata.html Fri, 14 Jul 2017 10:23:30 +0000 https://www.beet.tv/?p=47001 CANNES — Mobile is one of the biggest forces shaping digital marketing, marketers are challenged to agree common data standards, and advertising can enjoy a healthy future where commerce is taking place.

Those were some of the conclusions of a panel of ad agency technology executives, who debated the topics in a session recorded by Beet.TV.

In the panel, the quartet spoke about the problem of inconsistent data taxonomies and how advertisers can make hay where consumers are already buying.

IPG Mediabrands chief data and marketing technology officer Arun Kumar:

“When I say an audience segment is ‘somebody who is interested in fashion’, am I defining it the same way across these different datasets, are the taxonomies similar? If they are not, then, even if it’s deterministic, it fails, because I’m actually not reaching the audience I think I am.

“How quickly do you refresh this data? If my data is a year old, should I really be using that or not?”

GroupM North America CEO Brian Lesser:

“We’ll never get to a category standard because the industry thrives on information asymmetry – everybody wants to know more than their competitor.

“We have to tell (clients) things they don’t already know about their own consumer but also model out their potential consumer.  You’re seeing a cottage industry crop up to answer these questions.”

Dentsu Aegis Network product and innovation president Doug Ray:

“The mobile device is the gateway to people’s passions. We can instantaneously learn about a product, the price and buy that product at that moment in time. If there’s one thing that will continue to transform the way our clients market, it will be mobile.”

This video is from The Mastercard Automated Advertising Panel at Cannes Lions 2017. For more from the series, please visit this page.

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Netflix’s Ad Model Could Be Content, GroupM’s Lesser https://dev.beet.tv/2017/07/17cannesmcnetflix.html Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:27:45 +0000 https://www.beet.tv/?p=47003 CANNES — Will Netflix introduce advertising? That is a question on many minds in Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Madison Avenue alike.

Often, the question is framed as an “either-or” in which Netflix would have to choose between continuing its current premium SVOD model or ripping it up in favour of ad funding.

Previously, Ampere Analysis’ Richard Broughton has told Beet.TV Netflix could make up to $8bn a year from advertising if it switched over entirely, but would have to accept churn would knock off some of the gain, as angry consumers quit.

But one ad agency executive doesn’t think the choice has to be so dichotomous. Speaking in this panel debate recorded by Beet.TV, GroupM North America CEO Brian Lesser said an ad model for Netflix could be a lot more intrinsic and less disruptive.

“The question is not necessarily, ‘Is Netflix thinking about how to infuse advertising in to its model?’,” Lesser said.

“Netflix is, I would bet, having conversations about how big-brand advertisers can get involved in content creation so that they can have a more effective engagement with their consumers.

“I think, over time, all over-the-top content, with Netflix being the gold standard, will have to be financed in some way by what we, traditionally, know now as the advertising business.”

Also in the panel, ad agency tech and data executives discussed whether the modern-day precision capability to target only customers known to be in-market for a particular brand or product will mean an exclusive focus on performance advertising, at the expense of traditional top-of-funnel or brand-based advertising of the like commonly seen on TV.

  • Hearts & Science CEO Scott Hagedorn: “If (a consumer) can’t afford a Mercedes Benz, why not save the money and not advertise to them?”
  • IPG Mediabrands chief data and marketing technology officer Arun Kumar: “We need to focus more on things like the customer joinery – in what stages of life are those customers… ? Figuring out… so that you can get the best outcome.”
  • Dentsu Aegis Network product and innovation president Doug Ray: “Consumers may not be int he market today, but maybe in the market down the road. There’s a role for building the purpose of the brand, amplifying that through lots of exciting creative type of engagement.”

This video is from The Mastercard Automated Advertising Panel at Cannes Lions 2017. For more from the series, please visit this page.

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MasterCard Automated Advertising Panel Debates Future Of Ad Outcomes (full session) https://dev.beet.tv/2017/07/17cannesmcpanel.html Tue, 11 Jul 2017 10:44:43 +0000 https://www.beet.tv/?p=47005 CANNES — What do executives at the bleeding edge of marketing strategy think about the way the business is changing?

That was the main question on the lips of moderator Jay Sears, the SVP of MasterCard’s advertising intelligence, when he chaired a panel discussion on the topic on the shores of the Cannes Lions festival of creativity.

In The Mastercard Automated Advertising Panel, Sears questioned a line-up of agency leaders:

In this enlightening, 46-minute recording of the panel, they touch on a variety of topics, including:

  • What they have learned from the promotion of data-savvy leadership through agency ranks.
  • How brands should pivot to target marketing outcomes, not proxies for those outcomes.
  • Why advertisers should downgrade marketing-mix modelling and embrace customer data for better results.
  • How inconsistent audience data segments pose a challenge to targeting.
  • The changing place of brand advertising in a performance-driven world.

Enjoy the full, insight-packed video, or look out for our individual segments.

This video is from The Mastercard Automated Advertising Panel at Cannes Lions 2017. For more from the series, please visit this page.

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Agency Tech Chiefs Want Clients To Back Outcomes Over Proxies https://dev.beet.tv/2017/07/17cannesmcpaneloutcome.html Thu, 06 Jul 2017 10:51:10 +0000 https://www.beet.tv/?p=46993 CANNES — The world of online advertising has grown up by using metrics like click-throughs as proxies for advertisers’ real end goals, like driving sales.

Now, slowly, as new attribution technology hots up, brands are being promised the ability the ability to close the loop.

But, whilst, to many, this evolution appears to be driven by brands, agency tech chiefs, in this Beet.TV recorded panel discussion, say some clients have a long way to go. Here is a flavour of what they said…

IPG Mediabrands chief data and marketing technology officer Arun Kumar:

“Depending on who in the client organisation you talk to, you tend to get get a couple of different definition of ‘What is an outcome?’

“There is a disconnect in the conversations you have in procurement (and the brand). There is a desire in one part of the organisation to drive toward the outcome – and the other part doesn’t necessarily believe that that is measurable or comparable across a wider set of the ecosystem. There needs to be an alignment.”

Dentsu Aegis Network product and innovation president Doug Ray:

“You get what you measure. If you’ve got a procurement department, they’re looking at ‘How do we extract cost and drive down that cost? … If I can buy what I bought before more cheaply, the thesis is the return on investment will be improved’.

“There is a race to the bottom. It can only be bought so cheaply before you’re starting to fundamentally disrupt the quality of that inventory.

“We’d like to change the conversation and look at the value-in versus cost-out. It may cost you a higher CPM – but, if the response from the consumer is greater, then the overall value of that media buy is going to be better for that client.”

GroupM North America CEO Brian Lesser:

“The technology would be easy to solve. The most powerful media companies right now have a better understanding of consumers than many advertisers do – they want to hold on to that leverage, they want to define their own metrics, they want to grade their own homework. We’re left with Nielsen, which is imperfect at best.”

Hearts & Science CEO Scott Hagedorn:

“A lot of clients believe there’s one true god and that god is Nielsen – and that is wrong.

“If you’re an application … you have to install the Nielsen app in to your SDK, and there’s not a lot of room for that. We think 40% of all video or content that could be measured is not. That’s a big problem.

“The great thing about programmatic … and fusing different panels … in to a DMP is, you can actually start to look at the causality of marketing.”

This video is from The Mastercard Automated Advertising Panel at Cannes Lions 2017. For more from the series, please visit this page.
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Clients Caught Between Two Worlds: Agency Panel Discusses https://dev.beet.tv/2017/07/17cannesmcpanelmix.html Thu, 06 Jul 2017 09:17:46 +0000 https://www.beet.tv/?p=46998 CANNES — Many brands remain wedded to an advertising planning system developed by econometricians – but the so-called “marketing-mix modelling” doesn’t necessarily give them all the answers about campaign performance.

In this discussion panel recorded by Beet.TV, ad agency tech executives say many clients are capable of moving forward – but they are caught between two worlds…

IPG Mediabrands chief data and marketing technology officer Arun Kumar:

“The newer companies look at performance (marketing) very differently and they’re far more open to restructuring and not having silos. They’re very good at lower-funnel, they’re structured internally to do that.

“Where they struggle is, in many cases, they see that as a battle for market share, as opposed to figuring out, ‘How am I going to get to the top of the funnel?’”

GroupM North America CEO Brian Lesser:

“Market-mix modelling has been the holy grail of channel allocation fora  very long time. When you come from the new school, you say, ‘Market-mix modelling is looking through the rear-view mirror, that can’t possibly be right.’

“You get part of your media plan using real-time media to buy and optimise, and part of your plan that’s looking backwards. The answer is not either-or, frankly – tis’ about updating that model more often.”

Hearts & Science CEO Scott Hagedorn:

“The big problem with the market-mix models right now is the competitive data set which powers most of those are powered by Nielsen, and 75% of Nielsen’s money comes from the TV networks – so the mixed models themselves are totally based on TV and don’t take in to account what’s really happening in digital.”

Dentsu Aegis Network product and innovation president Doug Ray:

“We’re working with a lot of our clients on, ‘How do you bring those two worlds (clients’ media team and and customer data team) together? How do you apply the precision and audience understanding that those groups had, how do you leverage the understanding that those CRM or ecommerce teams and leverage similar types of data in a mass-media ecosystem?’ That’s evolving, we’re able to apply some of those principles in the mass-media space.”

This video is from The Mastercard Automated Advertising Panel at Cannes Lions 2017. For more from the series, please visit this page.

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IPG’s Data Chief Goes The Extra Mile, Beyond Proxies https://dev.beet.tv/2017/06/17cannesipgkumar.html Mon, 26 Jun 2017 10:01:54 +0000 https://www.beet.tv/?p=46746 CANNES – Brands need to break away from the limitations of traditional digital ad measurement, to embrace a world in which they can achieve true business outcomes.

That is according to the tech chief of one leading ad agency.

Compared with analog, digital advertising may be sophisticated but, without having full sight of outcomes like actual sales, for years the industry has relied on currencies that measure things like clicks.

But that is changing, says IPG Mediabrands chief data and technology officer Arun Kumar.

“We do have an addiction to measuring proxies,” he tells Beet.TV in this video interview.

“For too long in the industry, we’ve talked about proxies (as metrics), because of our inability to measure the outcome.”

“Advertising has had a problem that broadband has had (in emerging markets) for a long time – the problem of ‘the last mile’. You bring the wire all the way up to the house and then it’s not in the apartment.”

In Kumar’s world, the advertising industry would close that last mile, helping advertisers to understand true business outcomes by abandoning proxy metrics like clicks, and instead by embracing true outcomes data that can, nowadays, be linked to online instigators.

Increasingly, new measuring techniques can capture a moment of sale and cross-reference data trails to match the purchase to the user who saw ads that motivated the decision.

“There are a fair amount of clients making the move,” says Kumar, “saying, ’It’s important for us to go beyond proxies’.

“We desire to drive outcomes. The outcomes are always business-related. It’s a question of ‘when’ rather than ‘if’.”

This video is from The Mastercard Automated Advertising Panel at Cannes Lions 2017. For more from the series, please visit this page. Kumar was a panelist at this event. 

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Advanced Television Is About Buying Audiences, Not Space: Cadreon’s Kumar https://dev.beet.tv/2016/10/arun-kumar.html Mon, 24 Oct 2016 00:48:11 +0000 http://www.beet.tv/?p=42903 Arun Kumar deliberately avoids the term “programmatic” when talking about advanced television’s audience targeting potential. “All we’re trying to do is take some of the principals behind programmatic. We don’t want to buy space for the sake of buying space,” says the Global President of Cadreon, Interpublic Group’s ad tech unit.

Semantics aside, Kumar is focused on answering a particular question from marketer clients. “Have I made a smart decision on my media investment, and why is it smart?” he says in an interview with Beet.TV.

Key to such smart decisions is making sure that creative and planning agencies are working with the same target audiences and that buyers are executing against the same segment.

“What it means for us is this is the way we expect all media to be bought in the future,” Kumar says. “It’s less about whether it’s biddable, whether it’s going through an exchange, whether it’s private inventory. The most important point is are we planning and buying on audiences or are we still stuck with space.”

He notes that advertisers are increasingly willing to pay a premium for media “but we need to know exactly what are we paying a premium for and how is it driving the business.”

Kumar is encouraged by the increasing scale of U.S. households that can be reached with addressable TV advertising. “From our perspective, addressable has been a significant growth area. I think as the number of households scale, that’s where a lot of clients are going to be focused,” says Kumar. “We’ve gone past the tipping point on that.”

The bigger challenge lies in being able to target specific individuals within households as they consume content on a variety of devices through a variety of delivery mechanisms.

“The blockage in the system is how do you measure cross-screen and how are you going to figure out frequency capping across those multiple devices,” says Kumar.

In addressable TV he sees a similar pattern in location-based targeting of digital ads populated by dynamically inserted creative messaging. “I think a lot of that is also driving the growth of household addressable,” he says.

This video is part of a series produced at the NYC TV and Video Week’s Advance Advertising summit. The series is sponsored by 4C Insights. For additional videos from the series, visit this page.

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Cadreon’s Arun Kumar on Advanced TV and Why the AT&T DirecTV Acquisition Matters https://dev.beet.tv/2015/08/kumar.html Mon, 03 Aug 2015 14:02:52 +0000 http://www.beet.tv/?p=34827 Arun Kumar, global president of IPG’s Cadreon unit, sees AT&T’s acquisition of DirecTV as a watershed moment in a new era of television.  He says that the merger will mean more intelligent targeting of consumers with data on the household level.

He says that inevitable evolution of the new medium will bring new muscle to an already powerful TV.  He see the power of data targeting and television as challenger to even the biggest digital players.

Starting off the interview, Kumar explains the philosophy of the IPG group in advanced television media planning and buying. He says unlike some other companies which buy digital media upfront, IPG buys for specific campaigns, keeping the essential flexibility in the process.

This interview is part of a series of videos leading up to the DMEXCO conference in Cologne. The series is presented by 4C + Teletrax.

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