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Danielle Seth – Beet.TV https://dev.beet.tv The root to the media revolution Mon, 21 Jan 2019 17:05:43 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.8.7 Re-Thinking TV Ad Load: NBCU, A+E, TiVo & NCC Tell Forrester’s Joanna O’Connell https://dev.beet.tv/2019/01/forrester-research-nbcuniversal-ae-networks-ncc-media-tivo-joanna-oconnelldenise-colellaethan-heftmandanielle-sethlisa-lutz.html Mon, 21 Jan 2019 17:04:54 +0000 https://www.beet.tv/?p=58552 SAN JUAN — How long should a commercial break be? How lengthy should a TV ad be? And how many is too many?

Over the last 18 months, TV networks have wrestled with that question, as booming VOD subscriptions has gone hand-in-hand with growing consumer frustration toward excess interruption.

That has spurred many networks to rip up and re-shape the norm for what a commercial break looks like, and how long it runs.

A Beet Retreat panel convened during three days of debate in Puerto Rico to discuss ad load and the viewer experience…

The big reduction that wasn’t

The debate kicked off when the analyst leading the discussion confronted two networks that have launched initiatives to reduce ad loads with data showing, in many cases, it has not come to pass…

Joanna O’Connell, VP, Principal Analyst, Forrester

“I saw this really interesting research from Kantar that ad load, for all the talk, had not actually declined from Q1 2017 to Q1 2018. Actually, it had data on all of your properties which was super interesting to look at…”

Peacock’s cut is coming

Answering O’Connell, a leading NBCUniversal executive re-stated the company’s intention to reduce at load by 20% in some TV formats…

Denise Colella, SVP, Advanced Advertising Products and Strategy NBCU:

“It’s really a challenge because we need to find a way that the consumers will enjoy the experience and the advertisers will get their message out, and of course we will make money … How do we produce content that’s meaningful to consumers? It’s something that we’re very focused on for the next year.”

Linear is hard to change

Another network exec echoed recent industry sentiment about the pace with which TV is turning itself around, suggesting that the traditional TV business as defined by its legacy medium may not change any time soon…

Ethan Heftman, VP, Precision/Performance, A+E Networks:

“In the linear format, we have an existing business model that unless I can figure out a way to sustain it and grow it the way I have to in my role, yeah, it isn’t just necessarily going to change. You have the opportunity in OTT and in new formats to build the ad model from the ground up.

Danielle Seth, VP, Client Partnerships, NCC Media:

“We obviously still have challenges as it exists today, I think, beyond just the consumer we’ve all experienced where you see the four ads. There are a lot of technical reasons why that happened. With video on demand, the ad load is a bit reduced compared to linear TV, but more importantly for the consumer experience, there are caps put in place. An ad can’t run more than two times per hour.”

Tech can solve for excess

If linear is hard to change, panel speakers suggested that technology platforms could help the networks and all parts of the value chain to make good on promises to reduce the frequency with which ads are seen, if not quite yet the number of them…

Denise Colella, SVP, Advanced Advertising Products and Strategy NBCU:

“It’s really incumbent on the technology providers to solve (it), regardless of who buys the ad, who puts it out there. It needs to be frequency-capped.”

Danielle Seth, VP, Client Partnerships, NCC Media:

“NCC’s point of view is through partnering with the likes of Freewheel, who is really focused on this topic, and can help control for frequency across platform, but then also building scale.”

Viewers are revolting

Beyond these implementation challenges, though, a bigger threat is evident. In 2019, the booming success of subscription video on demand, which often comes minus ads of any kind, is inculcating an ad-free viewing culture. Steadily, viewers used to immediate content are discovering a disdain for advertising they always knew was latent but which has now bubbled to the surface…

Denise Colella, SVP, Advanced Advertising Products and Strategy NBCU:

“Our woes are certainly existent, but really the reason why (consumers are) fleeing the ad model is because we make it unbearable.”

Joanna O’Connell, VP, Principal Analyst, Forrester:

“Generally, so far, television has fared better from an attitudinal standpoint than digital channels, but I fear that that will change because of the exact things that we’re talking about right now. (Consumers) understood the role that the ads played (in linear television).”

Re-think the ad unit

Panelists agreed that the very nature of an ad needs to be re-thought – and not just in terms of its length. Custom creative and interactivity should all be on the table…

Joanna O’Connell, VP, Principal Analyst, Forrester:

“Creative management platforms and DCO (dynamic creative optimization) technology is the most-under appreciated category of technology out there. The things that you can do with these technologies are really amazing, and yet the awareness is almost null in the industry. These guys are (just) playing around in formats like OTT.”

Proof of the pudding

Networks are more likely to respond positively and fully implement consumer-friendly advertising breaks if they can see data showing effectiveness – one panelist said that poses a problem in TV…

Lisa Lutz, VP, Product Management – Advanced Advertising TiVo:

“If I replace my (traditional advertising) pod with two 30-second (spots), instead of seven spots, what’s the retention? What’s the migration? Where are people going? Did this work? Did this not work? There’s always been such latency in terms of being able to get the data and measure it. (But) now (there is) the ability to have data at your fingertips and be able to really measure a few days after you run something.”

This video was produced in San Juan, Puerto Rico at the Beet.TV executive retreat. Please find more videos from the series on this page.

The Beet Retreat was presented by NCC along with Amobee, Dish Media, Oath and Google.

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NCC’s Seth Explains The Longitudinal Approach To Cross-Platform Measurement https://dev.beet.tv/2018/12/danielle-seth.html Mon, 17 Dec 2018 20:07:33 +0000 https://www.beet.tv/?p=58040 SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico—Building audience targeting segments for attributes like advocacy and loyalty is best done with sub-segments at the various steps of the purchase funnel, according to NCC’s Danielle Seth.

In this interview with Beet.TV, the VP of Client Partnerships explains how NCC leverages its MVPD unique subscriber identifiers matched to set-top box data and then marketers first- and third-party data “not just for addressable that NCC Media is selling but across their national TV investment.

“So when you start to see how your specific first-party audiences are being exposed across those huge TV video channels, it opens up a lot of possibilities to start to understand reach, frequency the best ways to make the plans to reach your audiences more effectively and efficiently,” Seth says during a break at last month’s Beet Retreat 2018.

One topic that’s starting to come up is how to consider audiences to help with advocacy and loyalty. “You of course aren’t going to build an audience segment against something for advocacy, because that’s going to be a really small audience,” Seth explains. “The returns on that aren’t going to be efficient.”

The way to make addressable work for big national brands is to start building audiences with sub segments with each of the funnel steps in consideration. It involves using data combined with brand health information “that can indicate that it will eventually drive to a different behavior, or to the behavior you want, and how do you start to layer in building those audiences to serve up more robust audiences across screen.”

The “cool thing” about that longitudinal approach is measuring it across time with the help of partners in the multi-touch attribution space. NCC uses Data Plus Math to trend data “so that you really see how you’re driving that path to purchase or that path to advocacy.”

Seth cites the example of building an audience using an audience that has visited a website and then layering on subset of lookalike audience to website visitation. When measured over time, “you can see pretty immediately that the website audience was driven to conversion more than the audience that was the lookalike model. But the lookalike model was driven to the website and so you can start to see how you can robustly build that out to track how your efficiently moving that consumer through the funnel and hopefully it’s more than just than just your advertising plan.

“You’re starting to leverage that data in a way that helps impact your creative strategy, your platform strategy, the ad load strategy and such.”

This video was produced in San Juan, Puerto Rico at the Beet.TV executive retreat. Please find more videos from the series on this page. The Beet Retreat was presented by NCC along with Amobee, Dish Media, Oath and Google.

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