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Lisa Lutz – Beet.TV https://dev.beet.tv The root to the media revolution Mon, 21 Jan 2019 17:05:43 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.8.7 Re-Thinking TV Ad Load: NBCU, A+E, TiVo & NCC Tell Forrester’s Joanna O’Connell https://dev.beet.tv/2019/01/forrester-research-nbcuniversal-ae-networks-ncc-media-tivo-joanna-oconnelldenise-colellaethan-heftmandanielle-sethlisa-lutz.html Mon, 21 Jan 2019 17:04:54 +0000 https://www.beet.tv/?p=58552 SAN JUAN — How long should a commercial break be? How lengthy should a TV ad be? And how many is too many?

Over the last 18 months, TV networks have wrestled with that question, as booming VOD subscriptions has gone hand-in-hand with growing consumer frustration toward excess interruption.

That has spurred many networks to rip up and re-shape the norm for what a commercial break looks like, and how long it runs.

A Beet Retreat panel convened during three days of debate in Puerto Rico to discuss ad load and the viewer experience…

The big reduction that wasn’t

The debate kicked off when the analyst leading the discussion confronted two networks that have launched initiatives to reduce ad loads with data showing, in many cases, it has not come to pass…

Joanna O’Connell, VP, Principal Analyst, Forrester

“I saw this really interesting research from Kantar that ad load, for all the talk, had not actually declined from Q1 2017 to Q1 2018. Actually, it had data on all of your properties which was super interesting to look at…”

Peacock’s cut is coming

Answering O’Connell, a leading NBCUniversal executive re-stated the company’s intention to reduce at load by 20% in some TV formats…

Denise Colella, SVP, Advanced Advertising Products and Strategy NBCU:

“It’s really a challenge because we need to find a way that the consumers will enjoy the experience and the advertisers will get their message out, and of course we will make money … How do we produce content that’s meaningful to consumers? It’s something that we’re very focused on for the next year.”

Linear is hard to change

Another network exec echoed recent industry sentiment about the pace with which TV is turning itself around, suggesting that the traditional TV business as defined by its legacy medium may not change any time soon…

Ethan Heftman, VP, Precision/Performance, A+E Networks:

“In the linear format, we have an existing business model that unless I can figure out a way to sustain it and grow it the way I have to in my role, yeah, it isn’t just necessarily going to change. You have the opportunity in OTT and in new formats to build the ad model from the ground up.

Danielle Seth, VP, Client Partnerships, NCC Media:

“We obviously still have challenges as it exists today, I think, beyond just the consumer we’ve all experienced where you see the four ads. There are a lot of technical reasons why that happened. With video on demand, the ad load is a bit reduced compared to linear TV, but more importantly for the consumer experience, there are caps put in place. An ad can’t run more than two times per hour.”

Tech can solve for excess

If linear is hard to change, panel speakers suggested that technology platforms could help the networks and all parts of the value chain to make good on promises to reduce the frequency with which ads are seen, if not quite yet the number of them…

Denise Colella, SVP, Advanced Advertising Products and Strategy NBCU:

“It’s really incumbent on the technology providers to solve (it), regardless of who buys the ad, who puts it out there. It needs to be frequency-capped.”

Danielle Seth, VP, Client Partnerships, NCC Media:

“NCC’s point of view is through partnering with the likes of Freewheel, who is really focused on this topic, and can help control for frequency across platform, but then also building scale.”

Viewers are revolting

Beyond these implementation challenges, though, a bigger threat is evident. In 2019, the booming success of subscription video on demand, which often comes minus ads of any kind, is inculcating an ad-free viewing culture. Steadily, viewers used to immediate content are discovering a disdain for advertising they always knew was latent but which has now bubbled to the surface…

Denise Colella, SVP, Advanced Advertising Products and Strategy NBCU:

“Our woes are certainly existent, but really the reason why (consumers are) fleeing the ad model is because we make it unbearable.”

Joanna O’Connell, VP, Principal Analyst, Forrester:

“Generally, so far, television has fared better from an attitudinal standpoint than digital channels, but I fear that that will change because of the exact things that we’re talking about right now. (Consumers) understood the role that the ads played (in linear television).”

Re-think the ad unit

Panelists agreed that the very nature of an ad needs to be re-thought – and not just in terms of its length. Custom creative and interactivity should all be on the table…

Joanna O’Connell, VP, Principal Analyst, Forrester:

“Creative management platforms and DCO (dynamic creative optimization) technology is the most-under appreciated category of technology out there. The things that you can do with these technologies are really amazing, and yet the awareness is almost null in the industry. These guys are (just) playing around in formats like OTT.”

Proof of the pudding

Networks are more likely to respond positively and fully implement consumer-friendly advertising breaks if they can see data showing effectiveness – one panelist said that poses a problem in TV…

Lisa Lutz, VP, Product Management – Advanced Advertising TiVo:

“If I replace my (traditional advertising) pod with two 30-second (spots), instead of seven spots, what’s the retention? What’s the migration? Where are people going? Did this work? Did this not work? There’s always been such latency in terms of being able to get the data and measure it. (But) now (there is) the ability to have data at your fingertips and be able to really measure a few days after you run something.”

This video was produced in San Juan, Puerto Rico at the Beet.TV executive retreat. Please find more videos from the series on this page.

The Beet Retreat was presented by NCC along with Amobee, Dish Media, Oath and Google.

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Cross-Screen Planning, Measurement And Attribution An Iterative Process: TiVo’s Lutz https://dev.beet.tv/2018/12/lisa-lutz.html Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:42:12 +0000 https://www.beet.tv/?p=57997 SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico—To TiVo’s Lisa Lutz, it’s not that people aren’t asking the right questions about creating audience segments and targeting them across platforms and devices. “It’s just that there’s so many questions and so many problems to be solved, we’re just not there yet,” says the VP of Product Management.

“I think it’s a wildfire right now,” Lutz adds in this interview at last month’s Beet Retreat 2018.

She sees more agencies wanting to use TiVo’s MVPD and box viewing data to create targets for viewers of connected-TV and non-linear devices “and export that out as part of a segment.”

It could be in combination with data about, say, politics or location. Based on viewing behavior, ads for a new horror movie could be targeted to people who are known to be theatre-goers and horror aficionados.

Then there is the concept of exposed and unexposed ads and how to achieve desired frequency and measure it. TiVo can help to determine how to retarget people who have been exposed to specific ads or help to find “those viewers who I wanted to target but are light TV viewers and I didn’t actually find them on TV,” Lutz explains.

TiVo’s second-by-second viewing data also provide insights into how to retain audiences and how effective efforts are to improve the commercial experience by adjusting pod lengths. While there’s planning, measurement and attribution, “they’re all very much in parallel. If I plan, I create my target, I will most likely model that target today because I want to get the scale that I need to find those viewers on platforms.

How does one determine whether a particular target is effective?

“The only way to know that is to start looking at attribution. During the course of that campaign, of that model segment who converted and look at how those converted viewers score against that model target. Was that model effective?

“There are so many different questions and measurements and evaluations that need to happen that are just iterative across a process,” Lutz says. “I don’t think you can look at things in a silo.”

This video was produced in San Juan, Puerto Rico at the Beet.TV executive retreat. Please find more videos from the series on this page. The Beet Retreat was presented by NCC along with Amobee, Dish Media, Oath and Google.

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